Episode 31- Russ Ogden, a Masters Class in Paragliding

 

We’ve got a VERY special episode for you this Holiday Season. Ozone test pilot and world cup crusher Russ Ogden, one of the great living legends of paragliding and the inspiration for the Cloudbase Mayhem podcast and one of the most-mentioned pilots in the show gives us two solid hours that I am calling a Masters Class in paragliding. This is the most information dense episode to date that we’ve done and YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO THIS! There isn’t much we don’t cover here- being a test pilot; how wings are made, what wings are more difficult to make, reserves- square or round?; the “One Class” and the CCC class, comprehensive speed to fly strategies and how important are those instruments we love so much?; how to “sniff” out good lines; how to fly efficiently; the concept of discipline; what separates the elite pilots from the rest of the field; chasing world records; how to prepare for a competition; techniques to stop a frontal; the importance of SIV, the importance of stalls; why paragliding is still dangerous; getting through the intermediate syndrome; the Ozone ZENO; eliminating mistakes; dealing with fear; pod harness efficiency; seat board vs hammock harness; and MUCH, MUCH more!

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Show Notes:

  • Russ discusses his long history in the sport and what being a test pilot for Ozone is all about.
  • How are wings created? We delve into how a wing becomes reality.
  • What wings are more difficult to produce? You might be surprised.
  • CCC class vs Serial vs Open- what does the future hold?
  • The Texas world record encampment last year
  • What Russ works on in the “off” season
  • Speed to fly- an easy rule to follow, and how to fly fast
  • Sniffing out lifty lines- gliding, thermaling and more
  • How to fly efficiently- what separates the elite from the rest
  • How to prepare for a competition and should you?
  • Frontals
  • Reserves- rounds or squares? Fly with one or two? Weight range?
  • The importance of SIV, frontals and other safety issues
  • Why paragliding remains dangerous even as wings get so much better and safer
  • How to get through the “Intermediate Syndrome”
  • Bonus section: revisit the One Class, revisit the ZENO, reserves, learning wingovers and their importance, SIV, Seatboards, the Nova Phantom, Flapping to land, top landing, aspect and performance, how weight and size matter.
  • Mentioned in this episode: Ozone, Nova, Will Gadd, Cross Country Magazine, Isabella Messenger, Larry Tudor, Nate Scales, Nick Greece, Jocky Sanderson, Joe Krushe, Luc Armont, Andre Ferrera, Honorin Hamard, Cody Mittanck, Guy Anderson, Kelly Farina, Matt Beechinor, Bill Belcourt, Charles Cazaux, Mark Watts, Seiko, Dave Turner,  Pepe, Julien Wirtz, Xevi Bonnet, Cedar Wright

 

 

 

North of Known in Sidetracked Magazine

Sidetracked Magazine covers the Alaska Expedition with Gavin McClurg and Dave Turner

 

As the familiar pips at the start of my Skype call fade, they are replaced by the cheery, gravelled voice of Gavin McClurg, energetic to the point of booming. The American is on good form, despite recovering from a dislocated shoulder. We dwell on the obvious irony that after surviving his most epic adventure yet – the one we are due to talk about – he injured himself in a relatively innocuous mountain-bike accident.

Gavin seems to have a different mindset to most of the population. He gets things done – whether it be kitesurfing miles off the coast of the Hebrides, downhill ski racing, or sailing around the globe. To achieve this, and maybe as the mountain-biking incident goes to prove, he seems to have a unique perception of risk. At a number of points during the interview, he is at pains to point out that he isn’t crazy. I fully believe him, but some may question the sanity of a man who willingly undertook something that no-one else thought possible, enduring near-starvation, bear encounters, extreme weather and total solitude in one of the remotest places on Earth…

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Episode 30- Michael “Micky” Sigel and building greatness

 

Michael “Micky” Sigel began flying before most people learn how to drive a car. His early talent and passion got him on the Advance team when he was just sixteen years old. These days Micky makes a living as a test pilot for Gin Gliders and has been a dominant force in the Swiss League and the World Cup for nearly a decade. In this episode we catch up on what went down with the Gin factory last year in Northern Korea; what a test pilot actually does; how the Swiss League turns out so much incredible talent; the importance of mentors and how where you fly affects the pilot you can become; the local advantage and the traps of flying the unknown vs the known; what separates the best from the good; the importance of mental strength and believing in  yourself; the importance of a glider in a competition and the importance of choosing a glider that suits the task- and a LOT more. Enjoy!

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Show Notes:

  • Making a new Gin Glider
  • What happened with the Gin Factory in North Korea and how they have had to adjust
  • What is a test pilot really?
  • Swiss league- how do you build greatness and champions?
  • Micky’s favorite place to fly
  • The importance of mentors and how where you fly affects the pilot you become
  • How where you fly really affects the pilot you can become, and the downfalls of local knowledge
  • What separates the best from the good?
  • The importance of mental strength and believing in yourself
  • Choosing gliders to match the task and goal
  • The new CCC rules- will it help more manufacturers get into building comp wings?
  • Do companies have to build comp wings to better their lower level wings? IE is there a crossover?
  • Advice to lower hours pilots
  • Mentioned in this episode: Gin Gliders, Aaron Durogati, Will Gadd, Torsten Sigel, Chrigel and Michael Maurer, Steven Wyss, Peter Kleinman, Jan Sterren, Rafa Lukoz, Michael Witchi, Bill Belcourt, Matt Dadam, Nick Greece, Bruce Marks

 

 

Episode 29- Larry Tudor from Scary Origins to Radical Records

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Larry Tudor was known as the “Dark Prince” back in the day. We roll the clock way back to 1973 when Larry learned how to fly his first hanglider in the seated position (yep, pre-prone days) on a wing that got a worse glide ratio than today’s smallest speed wings. The stories in this episode are going to make your head spin. Remember when hangies flew the Owens every day in the summer? Guys tumbling out of the sky and not using reserves? Flying without instruments? Larry was the first person to fly over 200 miles (in 1983!) and was the first person to fly over 300 miles in 1990. His 308 mile record from Hobbs, New Mexico in 1994 wasn’t beaten for a decade. In the mid 80’s Larry was widely regarded as one of the best hang gliders in the world and this conversation covers a lot of awesome ground. Scary close calls, whorehouses, guns, cowboys, flying in tornados, trouble with the police, flying with air force bombers and early towing nightmares- this podcast is a glimpse into a crazy world of the pioneers who laid the ground in free flight. Larry left hang gliding in 1999 but has recently discovered paragliding with his daughter, making his career span over 40 years. Strap yourself in and prepare to smile and laugh, we had a lot of fun with this one.

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Show Notes:

  • The earliest gliders
  • The early legends and mentors
  • Discovering thermals and staying up
  • Scary beginnings
  • Early competitions, long before race to goal
  • Lucky vs good
  • Wing transformations and discovering cross country
  • CRAZY close calls
  • Figuring out how to thermal, discovering the Owens, chasing distance
  • Whorehouses, guns, cowboys, hurricanes, police, bombers, and towing nightmares
  • Flying 200+ miles for the first time, flying 300+ miles for the first time
  • Discovering Hobbs and other record sites
  • Flying for “smiles not miles”
  • Mentioned in this episode: Bill Frarey, Charlie Baughman (Hawkman), Gary Folkers, Mike Tingey, Pete Brock Brock Racing Enterprises  Corvette and Shelby Cobra, Jerry Katz ( History of hang gliding – Wikipedia ) 100 miles from Cerro Gordo (Scare your gourd off), Steve Moyes, Tom Kreyche, Mark Axen, Kevin Cristopherson ( http://kingfm.com/wyomings-world-record-hang-glider/ ), Christ Santacroce, Dinkub Jako, George Worthington, Don Partridge, Kari Castle, Ted Boyce, Manfred Ruhmer, Gary Osoba, Will Gadd, Antoine Girard, Wills Wing, Steve Pearson

 

Larry Tudor rediscovering flight after more than a decade.

Larry Tudor rediscovering flight after more than a decade.

Behind the scenes- Preparing for the Red Bull X-Alps

Gavin Mcclurg (USA2) and his support team of Ben Abruzzo and Bruce Marks celebrate at the final turnpoint in Monaco

Gavin Mcclurg (USA2) and his support team of Ben Abruzzo and Bruce Marks celebrate at the final turnpoint in Monaco

I always thought the Red Bull X-Alps would be a one and done event. Not knowing at all what I was getting into for our 2015 campaign not only was I nervous as hell for the 9 months leading up to the race (was I a good enough pilot? Would I be strong enough? Could my knees handle the pounding?), but the training involved, compliments of my brother-in-arms Ben Abruzzo (visit the snowgoat.com for more) was so hellish (and yet strangely incredibly fun) that I never imagined signing up for another go. But as I have written about before, the race was so absurdly fun (in a twisted sort of “fun” way) that we as a team were talking about doing it again long before it was even over. The only moment of any doubt of doing it again was on the evening I got into Monaco and several of us who had made it shared some really terrifically scary stories of near-misses that could have easily not turned out so well. Bruce even vocalized that “this race isn’t worth it- it’s not worth killing yourself.” But by the next morning, even though I could barely walk on feet that looked like they’d been pulverized with a hammer, we were already making plans for 2017. On day three of the race in the midst of an incredible deluge of wind and rain that was blowing trees over the road that had become a river I dove into our race van looking for sympathy and some dinner and Ben and Bruce served me a can of cat food on a nice white plate. I was told to “stop being a pu*%! and get going!” We never stopped laughing for 10 days and we all agreed it would be hard to have that much fun doing anything else, so as long as I was up for another year devoted to training, we were in.

 

This post is about some of the random but critical things that go into the lead-up to the event. Obviously you fly as much as you can and when you aren’t flying you’re pounding your body. I’m not going to talk about that aspect as that should be pretty obvious, and the physical training I do would be five blog posts just to touch the surface and probably of very little use for 99.9% of pilots so we’ll leave that a mystery. And lets face it, you would have to be pretty twisted to want to do it! What I thought might be interesting is all the side stuff that is so critical when it comes to having a successful campaign.

 

A little pre-race photo session

A little pre-race photo session

Wing. He (or she!) who flies the most in the Red Bull X-Alps wins. You can be the fastest and toughest on the ground but if you don’t kill it in the air, often times in terrible conditions, you don’t have a chance in the X-Alps. For the 2017 campaign I’ll be flying the brand new Niviuk Klimber P. At 3.36 kilos it’s the lightest certified EN D wing on the market. It’s the first 3 liner I’ve flown in over 5 years, which also makes it easier to launch and land than the competition wings I typically fly, which makes things a lot safer on the dicey days or when you’re really tired. I’m REALLY excited about this wing!

Feet. The Red Bull X-Alps has something like an 11% finish rate. A good many have to drop out because of foot issues every time. I bragged before the 2015 race that I had done so much walking on pavement (something like 2500 km) before the race that there was no WAY I was going to get blisters. By the end of day 2 my feet had gone to hell, and they got worse every day, to the point that I could barely walk every morning until they went numb. It was excruciating. There were multiple causes. At the start of the race Europe was experiencing I believe the hottest temperatures at that time of year in recorded history (I may be wrong on that, but that’s what I remember). Add to that very high humidity, and then getting lost with Aaron Durogati on day two which led to us scrambling up 1,000 meters of wet brush and our feet went to hell. The trick in the race is to keep your feet dry. The other trick is to anticipate that your body and feet are going to swell as the days go by due to the constant trauma and zero healing time. I had a dozen pairs of size 9 shoes, by day 3 they were all too small. Oops. This time around we’re taking a very close look at a lot of small things, but the most important is socks. The best I’ve found is Stance. They are the only socks Ben uses, and Ben is a pretty bad-ass runner.

Stance Socks

Stance Socks

Footwear. I’ll be using a combination of Salewa and Salomon shoes. Salewa makes an awesome trail running/ ascent shoe called the “lite train” which I’ve been loving. For the pavement pounding, Salomon has a great mix of very light running shoes and I’ve got pretty much every model they make.

Salewa's "Lite Train"

Salewa’s “Lite Train”

Navigation and Remote Communications. We really thought we had this nailed last time and invested a ton of time and energy into mapping (physical and electronic), apps, and communications. But once the race started even all our preparations fell short. You need a phone with a huge amount of storage so all the maps can be used offline because even in Europe there are a lot of places you end up with no data coverage. Then you need an awesome app that everyone on the team knows inside and out. So first up is using the tracking and texting features of the inReach for the entire team, and their Earthmate app, which has downloadable topo maps and shows your location without using the phone’s GPS (which saves battery). They can stay on exactly where I am using the MapShare feature, which is especially important when the Red Bull live tracking goes down when I’m not in cell coverage.

 

 

Flying over the Susitna Glacier on the last flight of the expedition

Flying over the Susitna Glacier on the last flight of the Alaska expedition- I was texting during the flight with the inReach, which connects via bluetooth!

 

This time around we’re also using Gaia GPS for our ground game, which I used on the Alaska Traverse and use every time I’m in the backcountry. Gaia’s excellent topographic maps now also include “snap to trail” features that come in really handy in Europe where there are trails everywhere. Immediately when I land Ben can identify the fastest way up to the closest launch, send me the route which I can enable in Gaia and I’m off, which saves precious brainpower and time.

Going deep? Get Gaia!

Going deep? Get Gaia!

 Tracking Training. I’ve got a new sponsor that I’m really, really psyched about. Garmin. I’ve been using their GPS devices on our boat for over a decade and have been a long-time fan and what has me really excited right now is their Fenix 3 HR watch. I’ve been a Suunto user and fan for a long time. But the Fenix 3 HR is a far-superior watch for tracking your training. This is a POWERFUL watch and activity tracker, and has a built in wrist heart rate monitor if you don’t want to use the chest monitor. It takes a bit to learn, but when paired with the Garmin Connect app and if you want to really get into the nitty-gritty of nutrition tracking you can add the My Fitness Pal app and presto- you’ve got a watch that tracks every step you take, every wink you sleep, and gives Ben a perfect way to track all of my progress and metrics.

Fenix 3 HR

Fenix 3 HR

Nutrition. The athletes in the X-Alps are getting more and more professional (and fast) with every installment. The course gets longer and harder every time, but the teams are adapting and still going faster. You need every possible edge you can get. We’ve hired on the team at GetWell3, headed up by Dr. Warren Willy, an Olympic and endurance athlete coach and author of many books based on eating for performance and eating “hormonally responsibly.” For much of the race your heart rate is above 135 bpm and often you are burning at “threshold” or anaerobic levels (well over 160). At these rates it is very, very difficult to process any whole foods. Typically this is where simple carbohydrates come in (think GU Energy– or sugar). I lived on GU’s “energy gels” the last time around, and I will again this time. When you need a shot of energy GU is perfect.

 

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But you also need whole food. It’s a long race, and sugar isn’t enough. Dr. Willy is creating very specific supplements designed around my stomach biome and a zillion blood tests to ensure when the going gets tough, I won’t bonk and I can keep the pace. For a small guy we proved the last time around that I’m pretty fast on the ground, but we hope to increase our speed and recovery by 5% using smart nutrition this time around.

 

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There are too many things that go into nutrition to include in this blog, but one thing I’m very excited about is a new protein supplement we are testing with that comes from crickets.  That’s right- bugs! Hopefully many of you saw the film “Before the Flood“, the National Geographic film with Leonardo Dicaprio about climate change. If you haven’t, please check it out. It’s pretty scary stuff, and if there’s one major take-away it’s that we’ve got to get off our global beef addiction. Crickets have twice the protein as beef, are more easily processed by the human body, have as much calcium as milk, more potassium than bananas, are totally sustainable to grow (and 12 times as fast as cows!), and is just a far-superior protein source for many reasons. Crik Nutrition is not one of my sponsors, but if you want to try their products you can use the discount code “cloudbase” and receive 15% off.

 

If you found some of this valuable, whether or not you have the X-Alps in your sights or another adventure race, or just find it useful for general training please leave a comment and I’ll follow up with more in the future. Fly far, fly safe and have fun!

Episode 28- Max Marien and the ACRO pursuit

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Max Marien broke the Infinity Tumbling record after jumping out of a helicopter in 2012, going right up and over his wing an incredible 374 times. The record didn’t stand long and has since been eclipsed by Horacio Laurens going 568 times, but still- it was a remarkable achievement. Max started flying at the tender age of 12 and makes his living flying tandems at the Torrey Pines Glider port. He’s been frequently requested on the show and this talk is awesome. Whether you are pursuing acro or not, there’s a lot of great knowledge and advice here, including how risk changes after you have kids; how to get into acro; the most common cause of accidents; the most dangerous maneuver (you might be surprised); the scariest maneuver; a ton of info on reserves and their use; safe ways to progress and a lot more. Enjoy!

 

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Show Notes:

  • Risk and having kids- does it change?
  • Best place to train acro?
  • How to safely get into acro and how to progress
  • Acro competitions
  • How to stay motivated doing the same thing over and over
  • Getting REALLY comfortable with your reserve, and the best reserves to use
  • The hardest trick and how to overcome fear
  • How to get into the sport
  • The most dangerous maneuver and why
  • The most common accidents and why
  • Do tandems hurt your personal flying?
  • Mentioned in this episode: Torrey Pines Glider port, Theo Le Blic, Pal Takats, Cody Mittanck, X-Alps, Ondrej Prochazca, Raul Rodriguez, Jocky Sanderson, Will Gadd, Russ Ogden, Michael Segal.

 

Episode 27- Cedar Wright and Intermediate Syndrome

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World-famous climber turned paragliding addict Cedar Wright returns to the Mayhem to describe…well a bit of mayhem! A year ago I sat down with Cedar on the podcast, who was 6 months into his sky addiction and as we’re both in Banff for the film festival we thought it would be fun to find out how this past year has gone. He and his learning partner Matt Segal flew off the highest mountain in Mexico, Pico De Orizaba, which is the centerpiece of Cedar’s new film “The Fledglings”, in partnership with the North Face and Niviuk. If you haven’t seen it the short version is available for free here, and the long version is currently touring with the 5 Point Film Festival, and will be in many others like Telluride and Banff. But he didn’t stop there. Cedar has been chasing it hard, and it hasn’t all been roses as you can imagine. We dig into some of the lessons, mistakes, a REALLY scary flight that involves high tension power lines, take-aways and more in this high-energy and laugh-out-loud episode with Cedar, who admits he’s fully in “intermediate syndrome.” Enjoy!

 

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Show Notes:

  • Cedar discusses some of the more memorable flights of the last year, including getting really TALL and dealing with hypoxia
  • Cedar talks about wing choice and why it’s been important for him to stay on a conservative wing
  • The importance of humility
  • The hazards of stoke
  • Do we harbor on the safety thing too much? Do we obsess on the accidents too much?
  • “You can’t retrobolt the sky.”
  • How to fast track progression. COMMIT.
  • How to get into the sport
  • The importance of setting tasks and goals for progression
  • Tactics to climb and glide better
  • Three lessons learned from a really scary flight
  • Mentioned in this episode:  Matt Henzi, Nate Scales, Nick Greece, Matt Beechinor, Matt Segal, Pete Thompson, Jocky Sanderson, Bruce Goldsmith, Tyr Goldsmith, Bill Belcourt, Eagle Paragliding, Gavin Fridlund, Mitch Riley, Reavis Gray, Kelly Farina, Antoine Girard, Ben Jordan, Mads Syndergaard, Will Gadd

 

The Fledglings

The Fledglings

Episode 26 Kelly Farina and Mastering Paragliding

Kelly Farina's "Mastering Paragliding"

Kelly Farina’s “Mastering Paragliding”

In this episode I sit down with former British team pilot and 15 year instructor and Alps guide Kelly Farina to discuss his new comprehensive book on paragliding, “Mastering Paragliding.” This fantastic read is and A to Z encyclopedia of flying. Many concepts were completely new to me- the 4/90 rule, the Golden Rule of thermalling and gliding, lee side warnings, becoming a “natural”, the air mass spectrum and a lot more. As I read the book I kept notes the entire way and tried to pick Kelly’s brain on everything I could to help our audience understand and incorporate his many great ideas and observations into becoming a better pilot. We discussed the following and a lot more: developing a solid “toolbox”; how developing skills is more important and a lot safer than chasing numbers; when and why and the dangers of moving up to a hotter glider; how observation trumps glider performance every time; the three common mistakes of thermalling; the lee side rule; a simple way to understand speed to fly; the importance of flying without instruments; understanding the spectrum of “fizzy to sticky” days and a LOT more. Whether you are a newbie learning how to launch and land to a PWC pilot air Jedi, this talk, and Kelly’s book will uncover some fantastic concepts that you can use. Enjoy and let me know what you think!

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Show Notes:

  • Kelly discusses the importance of the “toolbox”
  • The difference between unconscious competence and luck
  • The dangers of flying for distance, and why training the basics is so much more important
  • When to move up to a hotter wing- and when not to. And should we?
  • “Observation suffers when the pilot flies a too-demanding wing”
  • The “Golden Rule”
  • The three most common mistakes of thermalling
  • The 4/90 rule of thermalling (ie how to turn tighter)
  • The “definite don’ts” of thermalling
  • Leeside- what’s too much?
  • Speed to fly- a simple rule of thumb
  • Flying without instruments- the “Natural”. Are thermal mapping widgets good to use?
  • The Air Mass Spectrum- from Volatile to Stubborn and why it’s important
  • A warning of Foehn
  • Advice to the 50 hour pilot- take your time!
  • Mentioned in this episode:  Bill Belcourt, Russ Ogden, Nate Scales, Nick Greece, Bruce Marks, Matty Senior, Thomas Walder, Cross Country Magazine, XCTracer
Get it!

Get it!

 

Patagonia’s The Cleanest Line- Under the Midnight Sun (the Alaska Traverse)

Flying past Denali, day 28 of the Expedition

Gavin flying past Denali, day 28 of the Expedition, photo Jody MacDonald

Patagonia has just published the first full written account of the Alaska Traverse. Here’s a little taste, click on over to The Cleanest Line for the full account.

“To understand this story you have to understand that I’m not crazy. Sure I’ve had some close calls, but that doesn’t mean I’ve got a death wish. There was that time in Mexico when I got stuffed in a waterfall kayaking a first decent and spent over five minutes underwater. And there was the time we got knocked down and nearly run over by an ocean freighter sailing in hurricane force winds and 35-foot seas off Cape Mendocino, California. Ah, and there was that time I landed my paraglider in a river above a heinous waterfall in the Dominican Republic, that was a close call for sure. And I do have to admit to spending a particularly spooky 10 hours swimming in a Pacific atoll filled with sharks after a night-dive went really wrong. And I really got close that time my kite exploded in a howling gale kitesurfing in the Outer Hebrides, Scotland forcing me to dump my gear and swim for several hours in 10°C water against the wind to make landfall. But I promise I didn’t do any of these things for the adrenaline rush. And I didn’t do them because I’m careless, or because I didn’t understand the risks. By definition, expedition means going into the unknown. By definition, adventure means something is going to go wrong. What I’m guilty of is sometimes pushing too hard. And sometimes I’m probably guilty of dreaming a little too big.”

Click here to read the rest of the story.

 

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Episode 25- Kari Castle and flying for life

Flying the Owens Valley, California

Flying the Owens Valley, California

Kari Castle has been flying for 35 years. You name it, she’s flown it. Hangliders, paragliders, paramotors, speed wings- her passion for flying began early and she still goes hard. She was winning hang gliding competitions before paragliding was even invented and then when paragliding came around she went ahead and won a bunch of those too. A fraction of her resume is enough to put most of us to shame:  14 national HG championships, 6 (or 7, she can’t quite remember!) national PG championships, 3 world HG championships, multiple distance records, Red Bull athlete, and that’s just the beginning! Kari has made a life and a living out of flying and her wealth of knowledge is a tank I try to tap in this great conversation with a true legend in human flight. We talk about her two reserve tosses on a hang glider (you’ll dig this!); how Kari made a career out of flying; the dangers of the “comp” mentality; her 2005 X-Alps campaign; how to judge risk; what it’s like to feel really small in really big air; how to avoid really stupid mistakes; coming back from fear after an accident or scary episode and a LOT more. Cloudbase Mayhem listeners- you’re in for a treat!

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Show Notes:

  • Kari talks about how she got into hangliding and her first comp (which she won, before she even know how to turn a 360!)
  • The dangers of learning too fast
  • How she made a career out of flying and finding sponsorship
  • Kari recounts her first reserve toss after tumbling a hanglider
  • How to avoid stupid mistakes
  • Kari recounts some of her competition career and how she became a Red Bull athlete
  • The importance of having fun, and how to recover after an accident or scary episode
  • Feeling really small in really big air
  • What’s more dangerous- Hangliders or paragliders?
  • What kind of person is the hardest (most dangerous) to teach?
  • Lessons learned from the accidents last year at US Nationals in the Sierras
  • The dangers of comp mentality,
  • Mentioned in this episode:  Tom Dorlodot, Ondrej Prochazka, Jugdeel Arwal, Red Bull, Chris Santacroce, Paul Gushlbauer, Jocky Sanderson, Cody Mittanck, Will Gadd, Honza Rejmanik, Nate Scales, Russ Ogden, Josh Cohn, Bill Belcourt

 

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