#244 Grit and Growth: The Mindset of a Successful Pilot w Top Gun Ace Serge Durrant

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In this episode I speak with Serge Durrant, a former Top Gun fighter pilot turned paraglider, discussing his journey from aviation to adventure sports. We explore themes of mentorship, risk management, and the importance of community in high-stakes environments. Serge shares insights on overcoming fear, the competitive nature of flying, and the mental techniques that have helped him succeed in hang gliding, flying F-18 fighter jets, and paragliding. The conversation highlights the parallels between aviation and paragliding, emphasizing the need for grit and the value of learning from mistakes. Serge discusses the importance of training, mentorship, and the lessons learned from both successes and failures. He reflects on his growth as a pilot, the pressures of competition, and his future aspirations in the sport, emphasizing the unique joy of paragliding and the importance of maintaining a passion for flying.

In the episode we speak about Serge’s book “Fighter Pilot.” It’s a hoot and can be found here.

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Takeaways

  • Serge started flying at four years old.
  • He was flying jets by 21.
  • The aviation environment is incredibly competitive.
  • Mentorship plays a crucial role in pilot training.
  • Serge buried five good mates during his career.
  • He had a fear of the wind while paragliding.
  • Every flight is an opportunity to learn.
  • Grit is essential for success in paragliding.
  • Mindset shifts can significantly improve performance.
  • Serge won the master’s division in a recent race. Risk management is crucial in paragliding, especially in challenging conditions.
  • Training should include SIV (Simulation of In-Flight Situations) to build confidence.
  • The psychological aspect of flying can be as challenging as the physical demands.
  • Having a mentor can significantly enhance a pilot’s skills and confidence.
  • Experiencing fear is normal, but it shouldn’t be debilitating.
  • The thrill of paragliding comes from the unique experience of flight.
  • Competition can push pilots to their limits, revealing their true grit.
  • It’s important to have multiple goals to avoid a midlife crisis in sports.
  • The journey of growth in paragliding is continuous and rewarding.
  • Appreciating the ability to fly is essential for maintaining motivation.

Sound Bites

  • “I started flying at four years old.”
  • “I was flying jets by 21.”
  • “It was incredibly competitive.”
  • “I buried five really good mates.”
  • “You’ve got to have some grit.”
  • “Every flight’s a training flight.”
  • “I had a fear of the wind.”
  • “I was on the verge of not handling it well.”
  • “I woke up on day four and said, you’re an absolute pussy.”
  • “I got seventh outright, won the master’s division.”
  • “I actually considered quitting the sport.”
  • “I was ready to sort of say this sport’s not for me.”
  • “I love the hike and fly of not really knowing where I’m going.”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background
03:08 Aviation Journey and Early Experiences
05:54 The Competitive Nature of Aviation
09:01 Mentorship and Learning in High-Stakes Environments
11:52 Paragliding: Transitioning from Aviation to Adventure
14:56 The Importance of Community and Celebrations
17:54 Risk Management and Learning from Mistakes
20:53 Overcoming Fear and Mental Barriers
23:59 The Role of Grit in Paragliding Success
27:04 Choosing the Right Mentor for Growth
30:11 Mindset Shifts and Performance Improvement
32:50 Navigating Fear and Risk Management in Paragliding
38:48 Lessons from Experience: The Importance of Training
46:11 The Psychology of Competition and Grit
56:01 The Journey of Growth: From Novice to Competitor
01:00:24 Future Aspirations: Balancing Passion and Pressure

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#243 Flying and the Mind: A psychological journey with Paris Williams

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19th FAI World Hang Gliding Class 1 Championship

Paris Williams was described to me by our mutual friend Lisa Verzella as a Renaissance man. That will all become clear as you listen to this show. Paris has been flying hang gliders his entire life, and we’re the same age— so a long time. In this episode we explore the multifaceted nature of flying and its psychological implications. Paris has a PHD in psychology and is a practicing psychologist, and he shares his own journey from a challenging childhood and coming from a pretty dark place to finding solace in the skies. We discuss the evolution of hang gliding, the thrill of aerobatics, and the importance of mental health in the sport. We get into mindfulness practices  as a means to enhance performance and maintain presence during flights and the balance between competition and enjoyment and the need to reconnect with the joy of flying. We explore the intricate balance between striving for success and enjoying the journey in flying, and how letting go of the desire for achievement often leads to much better performance. Paris shares his own experience of transitioning from intense competition to a more relaxed approach, focusing instead on fun and personal growth- and then realizing his results got a lot better. We talk about age and how it relates to risk and mortality. We delve into the intricacies and emotional risks of pursuing records and the personal growth that comes from following one’s passion. We discuss the impact of personal struggles on professional life, particularly in the context of mental health and grief. Paris shares insights on navigating grief and trauma, emphasizing the importance of allowing emotions to flow and the natural process of healing. There’s a ton to unpack here, enjoy!

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Takeaways

Paris has a PhD in psychology and works as a psychologist.
He runs trauma trainings and eco-therapy sessions.
Flying can be a way to escape from mental health struggles.
Mindfulness can enhance performance in flying.
The thrill of aerobatics can lead to risky behavior.
Competition can detract from the joy of flying.
Presence is key to performing well in competitions.
Expectations can lead to poor performance.
Connecting with nature is healing for mental health.
The sport should be about passion, not just achievement. The harder I strive, the worse I do.
Companionship in flying enhances the experience.
Mental health is crucial in competitive sports.
Transitioning from competition to enjoyment is vital.
Fun should come before achievement in flying.
Returning to flying can provide new perspectives.
Age brings awareness of mortality and risk.
The thrill of flying can be found in relaxation.
Exploring new flying techniques can be rewarding.
Connecting with nature through flying is essential. The Brazilian paragliding record has been challenged by Texas.
Towing techniques have made paragliding records more accessible.
Flying with others increases speed and safety in paragliding.
Competition flying has a different psychological intensity compared to record attempts.
Following your passion is crucial for personal fulfillment.
Grief can be seen as a form of trauma that needs processing.
Allowing emotions to surface is essential for healing.
What you resist persists; facing emotions is necessary for recovery.
Breathing techniques can help in processing grief and trauma.
Facilitating the natural grief process is key to emotional health.

Sound Bites

“I had a pretty rough childhood.”
“We are a weird bunch.”
“I was pretty depressed in my 20s.”
“Mindfulness training is about presence.”
“We all struggle with this.”
“Can’t get no satisfaction.”
“It really does become a weird pursuit.”
“Letting that go, I think that intense.”
“I love the idea of having a tail.”
“It’s really tricky start though.”
“You might be comparing to old records.”
“Keep following your bliss.”
“Grief you can see as a kind of trauma.”
“What you resist persists.”
“Thank you for the therapy session.”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to the Renaissance Man
02:55 The Psychology of Flying
05:57 The Evolution of Hang Gliding
08:58 Aerobatics and the Thrill of Flight
11:51 Mental Health and Flying
15:00 Mindfulness and Performance
18:09 The Flow State in Competition
20:47 The Ego and the Sport
24:09 Finding Joy in Flying
26:57 The Pursuit of Satisfaction
28:37 The Balance of Striving and Enjoyment
31:14 Transitioning from Competition to Companionship
33:52 Navigating Personal Challenges and Mental Health
36:34 Returning to Flying After a Break
39:43 The Shift in Perspective with Age
48:21 Exploring New Avenues in Flying
55:16 Exploring Paragliding Records and Techniques
58:23 The Psychological Aspects of Flying
01:00:34 Advice to My Younger Self
01:03:22 The Impact of Personal Struggles on Professional Life
01:06:49 Navigating Grief and Trauma
01:17:00 Facilitating the Natural Grief Process

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#242 Stoic, Solo Adventuring with Juraj Koreň

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Juraj Koreň is an expert alpine climber and pilot from Slovakia who has been chasing some very extreme (often solo) adventures around the world for the last decade, including his 7 “virgin summits” attempt to climb and fly off the world’s highest peaks. We begin this conversation discussing his experience in the 2019 Red Bull X-Alps and how mistakes in his first race have guided his last five years of preparations for his second race this June, and the lessons learned from both successes and failures in extreme sports. They discuss the challenges of solo climbing, the importance of understanding mortality in adventure sports, and how weather can impact performance. Juraj shares his reflections on his experiences, including a harrowing solo climb of the north face of the Eiger and the mental battles faced during the Red Bull X-Alps race. We discuss the addictive nature of extreme sports, the lessons learned from past experiences, and the importance and intrigue of solo missions for personal growth and reflection. Juraj shares his experiences flying tandem in Pakistan and the dynamics of working with Aaron Durogati, emphasizing the balance between risk and decision-making. The conversation also delves into Juraj’s recent solo 1200km bivouac in New Zealand, highlighting the beauty of solitude and the mental challenges faced during such adventures.

Juraj has some great short films from his expeditions on his YouTube Channel.

Fun write-up in XCMag about Juraj’s expedition in India that we briefly discuss in the show.

Watch Juraj’s incredible solo vol-biv across New Zealand we discuss in the show:

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Takeaways

  • Juraj has been flying since he was 18, with a strong focus on cross-country flying.
  • The 2019 X-Alps race was a significant mental challenge for Juraj, leading to weight loss and poor mental health.
  • Juraj emphasizes the importance of understanding valley winds for successful flying in the Alps.
  • His solo climbing experiences have greatly influenced his approach to adventure sports.
  • The Eiger experience was both terrifying and exhilarating, teaching him valuable lessons about risk and preparation.
  • Juraj’s philosophy of stoicism helps him accept the risks associated with climbing and flying.
  • He has a project called the Seven Virgin Summits, aiming to climb and fly down from virgin peaks on each continent.
  • Weather conditions during the 2019 X-Alps were particularly challenging, affecting many participants.
  • Juraj’s experiences have taught him that not all experiences need to be positive; they can be strong and impactful.
  • He looks forward to future adventures, despite the physical toll they take. Adventure sports create an addictive cocktail of adrenaline and fear.
  • Learning from past experiences is crucial for improvement.
  • Tandem flying in extreme conditions requires strong teamwork and communication.
  • Working with experienced partners can enhance decision-making in risky situations.
  • Solo missions provide a unique opportunity for self-discovery and mental clarity.
  • The beauty of nature can be a powerful motivator during challenging adventures.
  • Effective planning and preparation are key to successful expeditions.
  • Understanding weather patterns is essential for safe flying.
  • The mental game of decision-making is as important as physical skills in adventure sports.
  • Sharing experiences can inspire the next generation of adventurers.

Sound Bites

  • “I was not able to fly off from Matterhorn.”
  • “I was hanging down with the hat in front.”
  • “I was really pushing by my point of view.”
  • “I was living in my car, kind of on the street.”
  • “I was really not answering.”
  • “I cannot wait for that again.”
  • “It’s an addictive cocktail.”
  • “I wasn’t able to make a big decision alone.”
  • “I was scared about this, but he never puked.”
  • “I enjoy the pressure.”
  • “It’s a mental game.”
  • “I lost 10 kilos in 27 days.”
  • “I can see we have very similar experiences.”
  • “I want to be there, I want to see this.”
  • “I want to feel that fear and scared to death.”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Setting the Scene

02:55 Climbing and Flying Adventures

06:02 Solo Climbing Experiences

08:59 The Eiger Experience

11:59 Reflections on Age and Experience

15:13 Understanding Mortality in Adventure Sports

17:54 The Seven Virgin Summits Project

21:02 The X-Alps Experience and Lessons Learned

23:59 Weather Challenges in the 2019 X-Alps

27:04 The Final Days of the Race

36:00 The Addictive Cocktail of Adventure

36:57 Learning from Experience: Changing Approaches

39:51 The Tandem Pilot Experience in Pakistan

43:01 Dynamic Partnerships: Working with Aaron Durogati

45:53 Solo Missions: The Power of Independence

50:00 New Zealand Bivouac: A Journey of Discovery

56:01 The Importance of Solitude in Adventure

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#241- Tom De Dorlodot and Resilience

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A year ago almost to the day professional Red Bull adventure athlete, 9 time Red Bull-Alps competitor, brainchild of “The Search” projects, professional speaker, loving father and husband Tom De Dorlodot was learning how to kite-ski in Norway for a future planned expedition across the length of Greenland when things went horribly, horribly wrong. This wasn’t Tom’s first major injury, but this one has forced Tom into some scary places both mentally and physically. Tom’s year has been a blur of darkness and light: nine major surgeries, months of antibiotics, at times a real risk of losing his leg pulling against optimism, hope, love of family and beautiful lessons. In this conversation we explore themes of resilience, recovery, and the mental health struggles that accompany physical setbacks. Tom shares insights into his accident, the lengthy recovery process, and how he has managed to stay positive despite the difficulties he’s faced. Tom shares the importance of support systems, the paragliding community, and mental coaching. He discusses the emotional impact the injury has had on his family, the lessons learned from adversity, and how he navigates risk in his athletic career. Tom reflects on his future aspirations, including competing in his 10th Red Bull X-Alps this June, and the shift in his approach to life and sports as he nears 40. Tom and Gavin explore the themes of risk management, life phases, and the importance of gratitude in the context of adventure sports. They discuss the often difficult and opaque balance between pursuing passions and the responsibilities of parenting, emphasizing the need for a shift in perspective towards enjoying life and nature. The conversation also touches on the challenges faced by the younger generation in a digital age and the importance of inspiring them to explore the world beyond screens. Ultimately, they advocate for redefining success in adventure sports, focusing on enjoyment and community rather than competition and ego.

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Takeaways

Tom expresses gratitude for reconnecting with the paragliding community after a challenging year.
The X-Alps race presents unique challenges that require quick decision-making and adaptability.
Tom emphasizes the importance of taking calculated risks in adventure sports.
Recovery from injury is a long and arduous process, often filled with setbacks.
Mental health plays a crucial role in the recovery journey, with ups and downs along the way.
Tom’s accident highlights the importance of listening to one’s intuition in risky situations.
The conversation reflects on the camaraderie and support within the paragliding community.
Tom’s experience with painkillers during recovery sheds light on the challenges of managing pain and addiction.
The discussion touches on the significance of family support during tough times.
Tom’s journey illustrates the power of resilience and the potential for personal growth after adversity. Support from family and partners is crucial during recovery.
Facing the possibility of amputation can lead to a new perspective on life.
Injuries affect not just the individual but their loved ones as well.
Resilience is key in overcoming challenges and setbacks.
Mental coaching can provide valuable insights during tough times.
Every challenge presents an opportunity for growth and learning.
It’s important to listen to one’s intuition in high-risk situations.
Life doesn’t stop for anyone; taking time for oneself is essential.
Health issues can shift priorities and perspectives on life.
Sharing knowledge and experiences can help guide the next generation. Life is about embracing risk while being responsible.
Gratitude is essential in navigating different life phases.
Adventure can be enjoyed without extreme risks.
It’s important to maintain a balance between passion and life.
Parenting influences our perspectives on adventure.
Nature and exploration are vital for children’s development.
We have a responsibility to inspire the next generation.
Success in adventure sports should be redefined to focus on enjoyment.
Ego can hinder the true spirit of adventure.
Life is fleeting, and we should make the most of it.

Sound Bites

“I was coming back to life.”
“I think it really helped.”
“I have zero muscles in there.”
“It was a nightmare.”
“I got infected.”
“I was a junkie, I really was.”
“I have a beautiful family.”
“I was prepared. I was there.”
“We have zero control in this.”
“It becomes everyone’s problem.”
“You have to think positively.”
“It is an opportunity today.”
“We can take it differently.”
“I will go back into paragliding.”
“It’s all about being grateful.”
“After the rain comes the sun.”

Chapters

00:00 Reconnecting and Reflecting on the Past Year
02:57 The Thrills and Challenges of the X-Alps
05:47 Navigating Risks and Strategies in Paragliding
09:08 Injury and Recovery: A Personal Journey
12:01 The Impact of Setbacks on Perspective and Growth
14:51 The Accident: A Life-Altering Experience
17:50 The Struggles of Recovery and Mental Health
21:08 Finding Strength in Adversity
23:05 Support Systems in Recovery
24:31 Facing Amputation: A Turning Point
26:31 Family Dynamics and Emotional Impact
30:44 Resilience and Mental Coaching
34:30 Lessons from Adversity
39:53 Navigating Risk and Responsibility
45:05 Future Aspirations and Career Shifts
52:56 Embracing Risk and Responsibility
54:52 Life Phases and Gratitude
56:19 Shifting Perspectives on Adventure
01:00:43 Balancing Passion and Life
01:02:38 The Role of Parenting in Adventure
01:06:12 Navigating Modern Challenges for Kids
01:10:48 The Importance of Nature and Exploration
01:12:46 Inspiring the Next Generation
01:14:15 Redefining Success in Adventure Sports
01:17:01 Finding Joy Beyond Competition

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#240 A lifetime of Skydiving with Jeff Ayliffe

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Jeff Ayliffe hails from South Africa and has been under some sort of canopy for a great deal of most of his action-packed years, beginning at the age of 5 when he became obsessed with skydiving. Jeff shares his journey from a young skydiving enthusiast to a veteran member of the national team, detailing the evolution of the sport and the safety measures involved. He recounts personal stories, including the thrill of formation flying and some terrifying, and sometimes tragic moments when things went wrong. We dig into Jeff’s transition to paragliding and the excitement of a new sport and new equipment, particularly the Moustache wing. We discuss the addictive nature of flying, the fluid dynamics of ridge soaring, and the rise of parakites. They reflect on the importance of community awareness in the sport, the unique launching techniques of flare wings, and the pure experience of hang gliding. The discussion takes a poignant turn as they delve into life-changing accidents and the lessons learned about risk and consequences in skydiving, culminating in harrowing stories of near-misses and the camaraderie of the skydiving community. We delve into the intricacies of skydiving and paragliding, discussing the importance of altitude awareness, training for emergencies, and the responsibilities of instructors. They reflect on tragic losses in the flying community, the challenges of cross-country flying in South Africa, and the exciting developments in wing technology. Jeff offers insights into career choices and regrets, emphasizing the importance of dedication and continuous learning in the field.

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Takeaways

Jeff Ayliffe has been living in the paragliding capital of South Africa for six years.
He transitioned from skydiving to media after the end of apartheid in South Africa.
Jeff started skydiving at the age of 15 after being inspired by a skydiving demo.
He has a background in teaching skydiving and has worked in media for many years.
The evolution of skydiving has seen a shift from large formations to more solo flying.
Skydiving is generally considered safer than paragliding, according to Jeff.
Jeff experienced a tragic loss in skydiving, which changed his perspective on the sport.
He has a passion for speed wings and enjoys flying fast but cautiously now.
The Moustache wing has significantly changed Jeff’s flying experience.
Jeff’s journey reflects a deep commitment to aviation and outdoor sports. Paragliding and mustaches are incredibly addictive activities.
The thrill of ridge soaring is unmatched, especially in coastal winds.
Community dynamics are crucial as more parakites enter the scene.
Mustaches allow for unique launching techniques in strong winds.
Hang gliding is considered the purest form of human flight.
Accidents can profoundly change one’s perspective on risk.
Awareness of altitude is essential in skydiving to prevent accidents.
The camaraderie among skydivers is vital for safety and support.
Experiences in the air can lead to life-altering realizations.
The thrill of skydiving comes with inherent risks that must be managed. Altitude awareness is crucial for safety in skydiving.
Training for malfunctions should be second nature for skydivers.
Instructors must assess student readiness carefully.
Paragliding can be risky, and instructors have a responsibility to ensure safety.
Tragic accidents highlight the dangers of flying sports.
Cross-country flying in South Africa presents unique challenges and opportunities.
The development of wings is an exciting aspect of aviation.
Family legacies in aviation can inspire future generations.
Reflecting on career choices can lead to valuable insights.
Continuous learning and dedication are key to success in aviation.

Sound Bites

“I started skydiving at age 15.”
“I started flying speed wings.”
“This is just so different.”
“They look like a riot.”
“It’s just so intuitive.”
“It’s really taken off.”
“They’re just so addictive.”
“You need to be very aware.”
“It’s like skiing and snowboarding.”
“I feel safer flying a mustache.”
“It’s the purest form of human flight.”
“There are consequences to this game.”
“You have sleepless nights sometimes.”
“He put the 172 down in the dark.”
“It’s been a privilege to chat to you.”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Paragliding and Skydiving
02:58 Jeff’s Journey into Skydiving and Media
05:50 The Evolution of Skydiving and Paragliding
08:54 The Thrill of Skydiving and Formation Flying
12:02 Safety in Skydiving vs. Paragliding
14:50 Personal Stories and Experiences in Skydiving
17:59 The Transition to Paragliding and New Equipment
27:29 The Thrill of Paragliding and Mustaches
30:24 Navigating the Skies: Ridge Soaring and Coastal Winds
32:47 The Rise of Parakites and Community Dynamics
33:22 Understanding Mustache Launching Techniques
35:02 The Pure Experience of Hang Gliding
36:50 Life-Changing Accidents and Their Impact
40:03 Reflections on Risk and Consequences in Skydiving
48:45 The Scariest Moments in Skydiving
54:37 The Importance of Altitude Awareness
57:46 Training for Malfunctions and Emergencies
01:00:35 Assessing Student Readiness in Skydiving
01:02:46 The Risks of Paragliding and Instructor Responsibilities
01:04:05 Tragic Losses in the Flying Community
01:06:25 Cross-Country Flying in South Africa
01:08:30 Future of Wing Development and Personal Aspirations
01:10:48 Family Legacy in Aviation
01:14:32 Reflections on Career Choices and Regrets

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#239 The thrill of a lifetime of flying with Eddie Colfox

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John Sylvester, Eddie Colfox and Jim Mallinso n break it down in Bir

Eddie Colfox has an unbelievable history with paragliding, beginning in 1991 at home in the UK and later across India, Pakistan, and Morocco. In this show Eddie discusses the evolution of the flying community, the connections formed through shared experiences, and the challenges faced in high-altitude flying. Eddie shares personal anecdotes, including his work with notable figures in the sport and the impact of his diverse experiences on his life and career. The conversation highlights the thrill of adventure, the importance of community, and the lessons learned along the way. We delve into the inception of the Himalayan Sky Safaris, the vibrant flying community in Bir, and the unique experiences that come with flying in the Indian landscape. We discuss the important balance between fear and safety, the role of tandem flying in personal growth, and the responsibilities of guiding. Eddie reflects on the importance of teamwork, the lessons learned from experience, and the significance of caution in adventure sports. The conversation wraps up with thoughts on future aspirations and the enduring love for flying.

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Takeaways

Eddie started paragliding in 1991, driven by a passion for flying.
He formed strong connections with influential figures in the paragliding community.
Eddie’s first experience of paragliding was a spontaneous flight off a hill.
The journey to India was sparked by a job offer from a unique character, Wrenkly Dick.
Eddie has flown in various countries, including India, Pakistan, and Morocco.
His adventures in Pakistan included flying at extraordinary altitudes.
Eddie’s experiences in Morocco were both personal and professional, blending travel with paragliding.
He has never managed to make paragliding a full-time career due to diverse interests.
Eddie reflects on the challenges and thrills of high-altitude flying.
The conversation emphasizes the importance of community and shared experiences in adventure sports. Eddie’s first experience in the Himalayas was intense and challenging.
Bir has become a hub for paragliding since 2005.
Flying in India offers unique experiences but also comes with risks.
Fear can be a useful tool in managing safety while flying.
Tandem flying helps pilots maintain excitement without pushing personal limits too far.
Observation is crucial for safety in guiding and flying.
Team dynamics and mutual respect are key to successful guiding.
Learning from less experienced pilots can provide valuable insights.
There is always another day to fly; patience is essential in the sport.
The conversation highlights the importance of enjoying the journey in paragliding.

Sound Bites

  • “It’s been a while.”
  • “I still have very good memories.”
  • “I started in 91.”
  • “That’s how the three of us got together.”
  • “I had a fantastic time.”
  • “I was just his sidekick.”
  • “It was just extraordinary.”
  • “Extraordinary heights.”
  • “I was too scared to go over the back.”
  • “We survived and there’s some great stories.”
  • “I like flying and landing somewhere vaguely safe.”
  • “Observation is the key phrase that people miss.”
  • “There’s always another day.”
  • “I hope I’ve made some sense.”

Chapters

00:00 Revisiting Old Memories

03:04 The Journey into Paragliding

06:00 Building Connections in the Flying Community

08:58 Exploring India: The First Encounters

12:05 Adventures in Pakistan

14:55 The Moroccan Experience

18:00 Life Beyond Paragliding

21:02 The Thrill of High Altitudes

24:02 Reflections on Flying and Life

26:57 The Evolution of a Pilot

30:00 Final Thoughts and Future Aspirations

33:30 The Birth of Himalayan Sky Safaris

35:55 The Allure of Bir and Its Flying Community

37:16 Experiences in the Indian Flying Landscape

40:14 Navigating Fear in Paragliding

44:52 The Role of Tandem Flying in Personal Growth

48:33 Guiding: Responsibilities and Observations

52:04 The Strength of Team Dynamics in Guiding

56:15 Reflections on Personal Growth and Learning

01:01:06 The Importance of Experience and Caution

01:04:03 Closing Thoughts and Future Aspirations

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#238 Acro, Test flying, SIV, Instruction, Meteo and Comps with Karlis Jaunpetrovics

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Photo Marcus King

Latvian APPI instructor, XC hound, comp organizer, acro aficionado, and former BGD test pilot Karlis Jaunpetrovics discovered flying in Taiwan of all places in 2012. After the bug bit hard Karlis moved heavily into acro flying in Nepal which eventually brought him to the doorstep of BGD in France where he became a test pilot for a few years. Karlis mentored SIV instruction under the boys at Flyeo (Malin and Fabien) and now has his own instruction company founded on progression called “Flying Karlis“. In this episode we talk about his journey to becoming an instructor, the challenges and intricacies of test piloting, his passion for acrobatics, his experiences flying in Taiwan, and the vibrant paragliding community he has encountered along the way. Karlis shares his passion for cross-country flying and the importance of mentorship in paragliding. He discusses the significance of finding the right instructor and community, as well as his transition into teaching SIV training, the 4 fundamentals of SIV, and how progression works when it works well. Additionally, we touch on the complexities of weather prediction in paragliding, highlighting the blend of art and science in understanding micro-meteorology. Karlis shares his journey in organizing local paragliding events, emphasizing the importance of teamwork and mentorship. He discusses the critical role of safety in competitions, including the implementation of strict safety regulations and communication protocols. The conversation also touches on the challenges faced during his X-Alps adventure supporting Theo De Blic, highlighting the camaraderie and respect developed among pilots in extreme conditions.

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Takeaways

Karlis moved to southern France in 2016 and has been a test pilot for BGD.
The interview process for becoming a test pilot was extensive and involved flying.
Test piloting requires a unique skill set that is not taught in schools.
Karlis found it challenging to suppress his instinct to control the wing during tests.
Flying in Taiwan offered a friendly community and unique challenges.
The paragliding community in Taiwan has grown significantly since Karlis’s time there.
Karlis transitioned from acrobatics to cross-country flying for more variety.
The repetitive nature of test piloting led Karlis to seek new challenges.
Landing in beetle nut plantations poses serious risks in Taiwan.
Karlis’s journey reflects the evolution of his passion for flying. Cross-country flying is about connecting mountain ranges.
Mentorship is crucial for growth in paragliding.
Finding the right instructor can enhance learning.
Repetition and practice are essential in paragliding.
Pre-course knowledge significantly improves training outcomes.
Visualization techniques can aid in skill acquisition.
Situational awareness is vital for safety in flying.
Micro-meteorology plays a key role in weather prediction.
Community involvement can help introverted pilots find mentors.
Understanding the fundamentals is critical for advanced maneuvers. Organizing events requires a strong team and mentorship.
Safety regulations in competitions are crucial for pilot protection.
Communication protocols can significantly enhance safety during events.
Grounding a pilot is sometimes necessary for safety reasons.
Radio checks are essential for ensuring effective communication.
Pilots must take responsibility for their own safety in competitions.
The X-Alps presents unique challenges that test pilots’ limits.
Camaraderie among pilots can grow through shared experiences in competitions.
Understanding local conditions is vital for safe flying.
The importance of clear communication cannot be overstated in paragliding.

Sound Bites

“I want to fly and I worked in offices before.”
“It’s surreal to be here after all these years.”
“The flying itself, it’s an island.”
“The process of it is very repetitive.”
“It’s just to try to do as big of a distance.”
“The knowledge gap is huge.”
“A good mentor is incredibly necessary.”
“Join as many groups as you can.”
“Repetition is the key in this sport.”
“Visualization works amazing for that.”
“Situational awareness is 95% mental game.”
“Micro-meteorology is where it becomes an art.”
“It’s incredibly complicated to fly.”
“Without the team, it’s impossible.”
“Radio checks took less than 15 minutes.”
“The real importance of radio is safety.”
“There’s only two options, really, right?”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Karlis and His Journey
03:02 Becoming a Test Pilot for BGD
05:53 The Art of Test Piloting
09:00 Transitioning from Acro to Test Piloting
11:51 Early Experiences in Paragliding
15:03 Flying in Taiwan: Community and Challenges
17:54 Life as a Test Pilot: Risks and Realities
21:03 The End of the Test Pilot Era
24:00 Reflections on Cross-Country Flying
26:12 The Importance of Mentorship in Paragliding
30:04 Finding the Right Instructor and Community
31:04 Transitioning to Instruction and SIV Training
36:10 The Flyeo Approach to SIV Training
46:06 Key Principles of SIV Training
55:12 Weather Prediction: Art vs. Science
58:59 The Birth of Local Events
01:01:34 Safety in Competition
01:02:31 Grounding Pilots: A Safety Perspective
01:10:36 Communication Protocols in Paragliding
01:19:00 Reflections on the X-Alps Adventure

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#237- Removing the Anxiety of Vol Biv with Tim Pentreath

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Four years ago almost to the day we released a podcast with veteran UK pilot/adventurer Tim Pentreath that explored his “Gumball Rally”- a vol biv adventure open to anyone in the Alps every summer. At that time Tim and his friends were just getting getting started. This show is a follow up with Tim to find out how it’s been going. The answer- quite well indeed! The Gumball continues to grow, continues to generate a ton of smiles, and they continue to cover a lot of very cool ground. But it isn’t about breaking records, it’s just about having a lot of safe fun. Heading off onto your first bivvy can be quite daunting, especially in the Alps if you don’t live there (and even if you do!). In this conversation we delve into the organization of the rally (free to anyone interested!), personal experiences, safety measures, and the importance of weather in planning. Tim shares insights on how to prepare for such adventures, the technology used for forecasting, and memorable flights that stand out. The conversation emphasizes the joy of flying in the Alps while also addressing the challenges and safety considerations involved. They discuss their recent flying adventures, including memorable flights over the Alps and the challenges faced during the Gumball event. They reflect on how their perspectives on flying have shifted with age, focusing more on the aesthetic experience rather than competition. The duo also shares insights on preparing for the winter season, their gear preferences, and the thrill of high-speed aviation experiences, highlighting the differences between paragliding and other forms of flight. Enjoy!

Tim has an AMAZING youtube channel that documents the rally and his own personal flights in the Alps and the UK. Check it out. The films are really well done and very inspiring.

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Takeaways

  • The Gumball Rally is about having fun and being safe.
  • Participants must be self-sufficient and experienced in flying.
  • Weather plays a crucial role in planning the rally.
  • Communication among pilots is essential for safety.
  • Personal preferences dictate whether to bivvy or stay in hotels.
  • The Alps offer a variety of flying experiences for all levels.
  • Injuries can occur, often due to windy landings or overconfidence.
  • Technology aids in forecasting and safety during flights.
  • Newcomers should seek advice and be aware of valley winds.
  • Memorable flights often involve unexpected encounters and stunning views. Tim shares a memorable flight over the Grimsle Pass and Furka Pass.
  • Landing on the south side of Mont Blanc led to an unexpected adventure.
  • The beauty of flying through the Alps is unparalleled.
  • Aging has shifted their focus from competition to enjoyment in flying.
  • Tim emphasizes the importance of flying within personal limits.
  • Winter preparation includes local activities and video editing.
  • July is considered the most reliable month for flying in the Alps.
  • Tim enjoys using budget-friendly gear for his adventures.
  • The thrill of high-speed aviation is a unique experience.
  • The conversation highlights the camaraderie among flying enthusiasts.

Chapters

00:00Introduction to the Gumball Rally

06:00Personal Experiences and Preferences

11:59Safety and Communication in the Alps

17:59Injury and Safety Lessons Learned

23:58Memorable Flights and Experiences

34:26Epic Flights and Memorable Adventures

41:11Shifting Perspectives on Flying Goals

47:35Winter Blues and Preparing for the Next Season

55:44Experiencing the Thrill of High-Speed Aviation

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The Wanderbird Podcast with your host Gavin McClurg

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Gavin Mcclurg (USA1) signs the Kronplatz TP during the 2019 Red Bull X-Alps

In this bonus episode your host Gavin McClurg sits down with Red Bull X-Alps legend, Red Bull athlete and world adventurer Paul Gushlbauer. Paul and Gavin became friends during preparations for the 2015 Red Bull X-Alps (Gavin’s first of 4) and have had some pretty remarkable adventures together, including during the filming of North of Known, when Gavin and Dave Turner crossed the Alaska Range by foot and paraglider in 2016 (Paul was one of the film crew’s bush pilots). In this episode we discuss of course the Red Bull X-Alps, Paul’s decision to sit this one out after competing 7 times, hike and fly racing and his Wanderbird events, headspace and staying passionate about the sport, risk, coaching and a lot more. Paul is a terrific interviewer and we had a lot of fun switching the roles to discuss our favorite topic- flying! Hope you enjoy.

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#236 Soaring through History with Butch Peachy

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In this continuing series on legends in the sport I sit down with Butch Peachy to discuss his over 40 years of flying hang gliders and his continued passion today. We begin with Butch’s early days in hang gliding, his unique adventures including being (likely) the first to vol-biv with a hang glider, and the evolution of the sport. Butch shares crazy stories from the 70’s, his experiences in competitions, and how music has played a role in his flying adventures. The conversation highlights the passion and challenges of hang gliding, along with valuable lessons learned throughout Butch’s journey. We discuss the exhilarating yet risky world of hang gliding, sharing personal anecdotes of near-misses and triumphs. Butch shares evolutions in the sport, the importance of mentorship, and the psychological impacts of flying. He reflects on his long-standing passion for flying, the adaptations he has made as he ages, and the significance of pursuing what you love in life. The conversation culminates in insights about relationships and finding common ground with partners who share similar passions.

Photo Anna Eppink

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Takeaways

  • Butch Peachy is a legendary hang glider pilot with over 40 years of experience.
  • He was likely the first person to vol-biv with a hang glider.
  • The early days of hang gliding were filled with challenges and learning experiences.
  • Competition flying is a great way to improve skills quickly.
  • Butch’s adventures often involved unexpected challenges and humorous situations.
  • Music has been a constant companion in Butch’s flying life.
  • The importance of community and support in the flying world.
  • Lessons learned from accidents can lead to better safety practices.
  • The evolution of hang gliding gear has made adventures more accessible.
  • Butch’s stories reflect the spirit of adventure and resilience in the sport. Flying can be thrilling but also comes with risks.
  • Experiencing near-misses can alter a pilot’s mindset.
  • The evolution of hang gliding equipment has improved safety.
  • Mentorship plays a crucial role in the flying community.
  • Flying provides a unique sense of freedom and presence.
  • Adapting flying techniques is essential as one ages.
  • Pursuing passion is vital for a fulfilling life.
  • Relationships thrive when partners share common interests.
  • Stress and fear can manifest in unexpected ways after traumatic experiences.
  • The joy of flying is a lifelong journey that connects people.

Sound Bites

  • “You’ve definitely got the best name on the show.”
  • “I had a roommate who went hang gliding.”
  • “I just kept rotating, laying on my harness, freezing my butt off.”
  • “I was the first guy to ever camp glide.”
  • “I was the first guy to ever camp glide.”
  • “I was a music major in college for a couple of years.”
  • “I was a hang gliding bum with a mortgage.”
  • “You learn more in one competition than a whole year of flying.”
  • “I was hanging by my fingertips, upside down.”
  • “I ended up getting a sponsorship for a new parachute.”
  • “I’ve been flipped upside down four times.”
  • “I always fly back to where I just got in big trouble.”
  • “Wings have gotten better too.”
  • “I was too busy having too much fun on my hang glider.”
  • “You internalize something like that, that, you know, you don’t think it affects you, but it does.”
  • “You can take the girl out of flying, but you can’t take the flying out of the girl.”
  • “If you could rewind the clock, what would you say?”
  • “Just do what you love and don’t let life get in your way.”
  • “Gravitate toward the people who love what you love.”
  • “You may not be right, but do it with enthusiasm.”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Holiday Greetings

02:10 Butch Peachy: A Legend in Hang Gliding

03:56 The Early Days of Hang Gliding

10:09 The First Vol-Biv Adventure

15:48 The Evolution of Hang Gliding

22:05 Music and Flying: A Unique Combination

23:52 Crazy Stories from the 70s

29:47 Lessons Learned from Adventures

31:00 Navigating the Thrills and Risks of Hang Gliding

34:55 The Evolution of Hang Gliding and Personal Growth

37:59 Overcoming Fear and Stress in Extreme Sports

40:53 Mentorship and Learning in the Flying Community

44:15 The Joy of Flying and Its Lifelong Impact

48:00 Adapting to Age: Changes in Flying Style

54:43 Advice to My Younger Self: Pursuing Passion

57:55 Finding Common Ground in Relationships

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