#280 Breaking records and building robots: the future with Jeremy Soper- FULL VERSION

In this episode British hang gliding pilot Jeremy Soper shares his journey from overcoming a fear of heights to becoming a record-breaking pilot and innovative robotics entrepreneur. We explore the future of AI in physical labor, using robots to weed instead of using pesticides, the thrill of extreme flying and chasing distance around the world, including a midnight flight where the date changed, a personal call-out to other hang gliding pilots who are losing the records race to paragliders, and an optimistic view of the future of AI.

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#280 Breaking records and building robots: the future with Jeremy Soper

In this episode British hang gliding pilot Jeremy Soper shares his journey from overcoming a fear of heights to becoming a record-breaking pilot and innovative robotics entrepreneur. We explore the future of AI in physical labor, using robots to weed instead of using pesticides, the thrill of extreme flying and chasing distance around the world, including a midnight flight where the date changed, a personal call-out to other hang gliding pilots who are losing the records race to paragliders, and an optimistic view of the future of AI. Jeremy recounts his amazing out and back record this winter in Kenya (377 km), beating Owen Morse’s record set in the Sierras a few years back and the risks and rewards of flying the Kerio ridge and why we should all be flying prone. Enjoy!

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Key Topics:

Jeremy Soperman’s background in hang gliding and record attempts
The role of AI and robotics in physical labor and farming
Future of human employment in an automated world
The technical challenges and experiences of long-distance hang gliding in Kenya
Innovations in hang glider design and the potential of Project Seven
The importance of soft skills and passions in a future with AI
The community and culture of extreme sports and aviation

Sound Bites

“The best way to overcome fear is to challenge it head-on.”
“We’re seeking new horizons beyond the Owens record.”
“Cloud streets and thermals are key to long-distance flying.”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Jeremy’s background in flying
01:47 Jeremy’s vision for AI and automation in agriculture
04:01 The impact of AI on jobs and human purpose
06:50 Jeremy’s journey from fear of heights to hang gliding champion
12:12 Record-breaking flights in Kenya and the challenges faced
20:11 Technical insights into long-distance hang gliding and conditions
30:07 Future of hang gliding, design innovations, and the Project Seven
45:02 The culture of extreme aviation and community stories
54:57 Closing thoughts on innovation, persistence, and the future

Resources

Telekin – Robotics for Farming – https://telekin.tech

FlexAlps Challenge mentioned in the show: www.XC-Buddy.com

#279 The ultimate flying migration with Benjamin Kellett- FULL VERSION

In this episode, adventurer and filmmaker Benjamin Kellett returns to the Mayhem by popular demand to share his rather awesome adventurous paragliding journeys across the Himalaya, Karakorum, and Europe in what has become an annual migration. Ben discusses the challenges of high-altitude flying, gear choices, and the evolving landscape of tandem paragliding regulations and a LOT more. Discover insights into character-building expeditions, the impact of weather phenomena like the "Super" El Nino this year, and future plans for exploration. Ben chases the aesthetic of flying better than just about anyone.

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#279 The ultimate flying migration with Benjamin Kellett

In this episode, adventurer and filmmaker Benjamin Kellett returns to the Mayhem by popular demand to share his rather awesome adventurous paragliding journeys across the Himalaya, Karakorum, and Europe in what has become an annual migration. Ben discusses the challenges of high-altitude flying, gear choices, and the evolving landscape of tandem paragliding regulations and a LOT more. Discover insights into character-building expeditions, the impact of weather phenomena like the “Super” El Nino this year, and future plans for exploration. Ben chases the aesthetic of flying better than just about anyone. Prepare to be inspired!

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Key Topics

Ben Kellett’s migratory schedule and destinations
Challenges of high-altitude and bivy flying in Karakorum and Himalaya
Gear choices and filming techniques for aerial adventures
Impact of weather phenomena like El Nino on flying conditions
Regulations and permits for remote and protected areas
Future exploration plans and bucket list destinations

Ben’s Website: www.benjaminkellett.com

Ben’s youtube channel: www.youtube.com/@BenjaminKellett

Ben’s Instagram

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#278- Patagonia Convergence, Acro Mastery, and the Truth about SIV with Kris Holub- FULL VERSION

Kris Holub is one of the most versatile pilots in the American free-flight community — an accomplished acro competitor, XC pilot, and SIV/acro instructor who has spent the last four years running clinics out of Oludeniz, Turkey. Gavin sat down with Kris in person during a weather day at the US Nationals in Chelan this June to talk about his extraordinary winter season in Bariloche, Argentina, where he and his friend Marcos Rosenkjer explored one of the most underrated and unknown and seriously awesome XC destinations in the world — and capped it off with a 345km convergence flight into the Patagonian desert.

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#278: Patagonia Convergence, Acro Mastery, and the Truth about SIV with Kris Holub

Kris Holub is one of the most versatile pilots in the American free-flight community — an accomplished acro competitor, XC pilot, and SIV/acro instructor who has spent the last four years running clinics out of Oludeniz, Turkey. Gavin sat down with Kris in person during a weather day at the US Nationals in Chelan this June to talk about his extraordinary winter season in Bariloche, Argentina, where he and his friend Marcos Rosenkjer explored one of the most underrated and unknown and seriously awesome XC destinations in the world — and capped it off with a 345km convergence flight into the Patagonian desert.

This conversation covers everything from the meteorology of the famous Patagonian dry-line convergence (think Texas dry line, but bigger and more reliable) to Kris’s philosophy on SIV training, his journey from robotics engineer to full-time acro instructor, and a refreshingly honest “stall rant” that challenges some of the community’s most deeply held assumptions about what pilots actually need to learn — and when. Please don’t just listen to this one, check out Kris’ images and videos below and check out Kris’ instagram for some unreal videos from the trip.

This is the first episode where we are launching two versions- a shorter 30 minute version on our normal podcast channel, and the full version on our subscriber channel. We never put anything behind a paywall, if you aren’t a subscriber of the show and can’t afford to support our content, just email me and I’ll set you up with a lifetime subscription, no questions asked. Confused? Find out how to listen to the subscriber channel here. This post has the shorter version below.

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Topics Covered:

  • Bariloche, Argentina as a world-class XC destination: the terrain, climate, local flying community, and why it’s not the savage Fitzroy-style Patagonia most people imagine
  • The Patagonian dry-line convergence: how it sets up, how to read it on SkyEye and Skysight, and why it could support 500km+ flights on the right day
  • The 345km convergence flight: a 9-hour epic that included a first-ever vol biv, a near-dark desert landing in cactus field, and sleeping two nights under the stars
  • Why Starlink changed everything for XC flying in the Patagonian steppe
  • Vol biv logistics in extremely remote terrain with no roads on Google Maps
  • The lifestyle case for Bariloche vs. the Roldan/Valle Columbia circuit: world-class backpacking, climbing, wing foiling, kite boarding, and skiing on the non-fly days
  • Kris’s acro origin story: from a 15-hour pilot in Turkey to infinite tumbling in Gerlitzen in under two years
  • Quitting engineering twice to pursue flying — and why teaching acro scratches a completely different itch than tandem
  • The 2024 acro competition season: placing 3rd at his first Acro World Qualifier, the ego trap of performing well, and why the XContest black hole and the acro comp black hole feel eerily similar
  • The SIV philosophy: why Kris builds the spiral progression before collapses, and why “lockout spiral” is a misleading term
  • The stall rant: why stalls are not the holy grail, when they actually help, and what pilots are missing by fast-forwarding to them
  • Why wingovers may be the single most transferable SIV drill for everyday XC flying
  • The “search for spin” as an underrated and surprisingly un-scary maneuver that every pilot should experience
  • How acro training expands your situational awareness “soda straw” — and why that matters more than any specific maneuver
  • The new subscriber channel format: what’s changing and what’s staying free forever

Mentioned in This Episode:

  • Marcos Rosenkjer — Argentine pilot and Bariloche local, mastermind behind the convergence missions
  • Hernan Pitoco — Cordoba-based pilot who joined the convergence flight crew
  • Skysight and XCSkies — the forecasting tools that called the convergence accurately
  • UTI (Convergence layer on Oudie) — the instrument overlay that shows the convergence line in real time
  • Antoine Girard — the French para-alpinist whose record flights above Broad Peak inspired the Patagonia crew
  • Santacroce (Santa) — the coach who taught Chris his first stalls
  • Colin Papa — the coach who taught Chris rhythmic SAT through infinite in Gerlitzen
  • Mike Jimenez / CoPilot — the acro coach Chris hired for his 2024 comp season

Where to Find Kris:

Kris runs SIV and acro clinics primarily out of Oludeniz, Turkey each spring and fall. Go to beyondsiv.com

Xcmag wrote an article here: https://xcmag.com/magazine-articles/adventure-and-inspiration/the-patagonian-dryline/

Kris wrote an article for ushpa magazine for USHPA Pilot Vol56-Iss3 Summer July-Sept 2026, starting page 35

The big tracklog is here: https://www.xcontest.org/world/en/flights/detail:krisholub/21.2.2026/15:04

instagram @goodnessgravity

Kris has a youtube channel of tutorials here: https://youtube.com/@beyondsiv?si=9ioWrzwon9mOyXtc

#277 Mastering the Skies with Chandler Papas

In this episode I sit down for a super fun chat with longtime instructor and one of the coolest cats around, Chandler Papas, the owner of Desert Wind Paragliding. Chandler shares his life-long journey into paragliding, the importance of good instruction, risk management, and cultivating gratitude for a safer and more fulfilling flying experience. We had a blast and I didn’t want it to end. Enjoy!

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Key Topics

Journey into paragliding and early influences
Importance of qualified instruction and continuous learning
Risk management and judgment in flying
The role of gratitude and mindset in safety and enjoyment
Community, mentorship, and sharing knowledge in the sport

Sound Bites

“I want to live life to the fullest”
“Judgment is the key to safe flying”
“Celebrate the little stuff, it’s all part of the journey”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Paragliding Passion
03:00 The Journey Begins: Early Influences and Discoveries
06:01 Training and Mentorship: Learning from the Best
08:52 The Importance of Qualified Instruction
12:01 Navigating the Challenges of Paragliding Training
15:08 Finding the Right Instructor and School
17:59 Commitment to the Sport: Understanding Costs and Risks
22:18 Learning the Art of Surfing Etiquette
24:34 Finding the Right Instructor for You
27:07 Understanding the Risks of Paragliding
30:08 The Importance of Judgment in Paragliding
35:27 Navigating the Challenges of Paragliding Training
42:10 The Role of Gratitude in Paragliding
47:56 Living Life to the Fullest Through Paragliding
50:16 The Power of Gratitude in Aviation
53:07 Mindset and Decision Making in Paragliding
56:27 Embracing the Challenge of Early Thermals
01:01:39 Navigating Fear and Intuition in Flight
01:06:28 Reflections on Growth and Learning in Paragliding

Resources:
Cuervo (David Prentice) – Paragliding Instructor – https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-prentice
Salt Lake City Paragliding School – https://www.saltlakeparagliding.com
U.S. Hang Gliding and Paragliding Association (USHPA) – https://www.ushpa.org

#276 Hang Gliding Unveiled: Safety, Gear, and Growth Strategies with Erika Klein

Veteran Hang Gliding pilot Erika Klein shares her journey into the sport, the unique aspects of dune flying, and insights on safety, gear, and growing the sport. This episode offers valuable tips for beginners and enthusiasts alike- and if you haven’t hang glided will get you very keen to go prone!

Connect with Erika:
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@erikajklein
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/erikajklein
Website: https://www.erikajklein.com
Fly Yosemite (H4 only, June-October): https://www.yosemitehg.org

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Key Topics

Dune flying techniques and locations
Safety misconceptions and gear considerations
Growth and accessibility of hang gliding
Use of video analysis for training and improvement
Progression in the sport and community dynamics

sound bites

“Hang gliders can do more than just go fast”
“Hang gliders don’t collapse if maintained properly”
“Speed is safety in hang gliding”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Dune Flying and Hang Gliding
02:46 Erika’s Journey into Hang Gliding
05:49 The Evolution of Hang Gliding and Paragliding
08:59 The Role of Social Media in Hang Gliding
11:37 Innovations in Hang Gliding Equipment
14:34 Future of Hang Gliding: Growth and Challenges
17:35 Misconceptions Between Hang Gliding and Paragliding
20:41 Landing Techniques and Safety in Hang Gliding
23:35 Passion for Flying: What Keeps Pilots Engaged
26:57 The Dynamics of Gender in Hang Gliding
29:19 Experiences as a Female Pilot
31:14 Goals and Improvement in Paragliding
33:16 Safety Concerns in Paragliding
35:49 The Data Dilemma in Aviation Safety
38:35 Comparing Hang Gliding and Paragliding Safety
42:45 The Reality of Risk in Aviation
44:36 Teaching New Pilots About Danger
46:40 Learning to Fly: Hang Gliding vs. Paragliding
48:28 The Importance of Training Hills
49:55 Finding the Right School for Hang Gliding
52:21 Going Beyond Comfort Zones in Flying
54:28 The Role of Simulators in Pilot Training
56:13 Misconceptions in the Air: Hang Gliders vs. Paragliders
01:03:21 The Role of Video in Flight Training
01:09:13 Safety and Equipment: Lessons from Experience

#275 Hike and Fly Racing, Supporting, and Having One with Ben Hodgson

South African pilot and veteran sailor Ben Hodgson has been competing in some of the most well-known and intense hike and fly races around the world for a decade, beginning with the XBerg in 2017 and then advancing to the Bornes to Fly, X-Pyr and many others. Last year he was the main supporter for the Wunderkind rookie Gabe Jansen in the Red Bull X-Alps after they met competing in a hike and fly race in Brazil. Next week Ben will begin a new journey covering the X-Pyr as a live commentator from the ground and the air (much like I do for the Red Bull X-Alps!). In this episode we dive into Ben’s insights into training, strategy, and the passion and motivation that keeps him going. We cover what he’s learned as an athlete as well as a supporter, how the body is often stronger than the mind, how much fun you can have with a supporter (in this case his sister!) who knows absolutely nothing about paragliding, all kinds of tricks of the trade, finding flow and humor in stressful situations and a lot more. We both had a blast with this chat and hope you enjoy!

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key topics

Ben’s background in flying and racing
The history and end of the Exberg race
Differences between Pyrenees and Alps terrain
Preparation and scouting for X-Pyr
Support team dynamics and logistics
Mental resilience and race mindset
Lessons learned from race experiences
Future plans for X-Alps and beyond

sound bites

“My first race was Exberg in 2017.”
“Flying is my big focus, if I had to pick one.”
“Your body is stronger than your mind.”

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Hike and Fly Racing
02:45 Experiences in South Africa and Safety Concerns
05:57 The Journey into Paragliding
08:46 Transitioning from Kite Surfing to Paragliding
11:44 The X-Pyr Experience and Preparation
14:44 Challenges and Adventures in the Pyrenees
17:44 Comparing X-Pyr and X-Alps
20:44 Navigating the Pyrenees: Strategy and Support
23:37 Lessons Learned from the Race
26:39 The Role of Support Teams in Adventure Racing
35:13 Conflict Resolution in Adventure Racing
39:02 The Journey to X-Alps
46:04 Gabe’s Unexpected Rise in Racing
52:14 The Importance of Competition Flying
01:01:13 The Joy of Adventure and Community
01:07:53 Planning for Future Races

#274- Breaking Barriers: Fatemeh Eftekhari’s journey as Iran’s “Queen of the Skies” and the Power of Aviation

Imagine soaring through the skies at 6,000+ meters, shattering the proverbial glass ceiling in a country where female pilots are a rare sight. Today, we delve into the remarkable story of Fatemeh Eftekhari, Iran’s first serious female cross-country pilot and a trailblazer for women in aviation and extreme sports. Her journey is not just about flying; it’s about defying societal norms, pushing boundaries, and inspiring a new generation of women to chase their dreams no matter the obstacles. In a time of enormous geopolitical tensions and societal restrictions, Fatemeh’s story offers a breath of fresh air—an inspiring example of resilience, courage, and relentless pursuit of passion. Whether you’re an aspiring pilot, a supporter of women’s rights, or simply love an empowering story, her journey will change the way you see the sky, likely change the way you see Iran, and what someone with guts and grit can achieve in the sky as well as on the ground.

Connect with Fatemeh on Instagram.

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Key Topics:

  • Fatemeh’s background and how she became the first female cross-country pilot in Iran
  • Cultural and societal barriers faced by women in Iran pursuing aviation
  • The development of women’s participation in paragliding and cross-country flying
  • How she founded the Women’s Flight Society and the impact on Iranian women pilots
  • Differences between flying in Iran versus Europe, including airspace and safety
  • The role of Iranian hospitality and resilience amidst ongoing conflicts and war
  • Misconceptions about Iran and the true diversity of its landscapes and people
  • The importance of passion and purpose in flying, and her vision for the future

Timestamps:

00:00 – Introduction and guest’s background in Iranian aviation
02:15 – Societal constraints and her journey into becoming a pilot
04:50 – How she broke societal and gender barriers in Iran
08:10 – The establishment and evolution of women’s participation in paragliding in Iran
12:00 – Challenges of being the only woman competing internationally from Iran
16:00 – Breaking the “imaginary roof” for women and inspiring others
20:00 – The current state of women pilots in Iran and globally
24:30 – Flying in Iran’s airspace and safety considerations amidst restrictions
28:00 – Comparing flying experiences in Iran and Europe
32:00 – Misconceptions about Iran and its natural diversity
36:00 – Living through conflict and the resilience of Iranian society
40:00 – The impact of war on daily life and flying ambitions
44:00 – Middle East geopolitics, perceptions, and Iran’s cultural closeness to the US
48:00 – Advice for young women wanting to fly and pursue aviation dreams
52:00 – Fatemeh’s future goals and passion for flying
54:00 – Closing remarks and inspirational message